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If you would like to globally opt-OUT for the Mission Report Challenge part c), please comment here. This says you do NOT want someone writing a mission report based on one of your stories, no matter what. If you just want to be asked for permission first or informed first, you do NOT need to comment; that is now the default for the challenge.

The following list of people are those who posted opting-out without exceptions in the original post -- I have tried to err on the side of putting people on here if I wasn't sure whether or not they just wanted to be asked, but if I've made any mistakes or omissions, just drop a comment and I will remove/add you as you wish.

Note -- the list in the post itself is just the people who opted out in the previous post; please CHECK THE COMMENTS for people who have opted out since then, thanks!


[livejournal.com profile] 30toseoul
[livejournal.com profile] angelqueen04
[livejournal.com profile] beaniesheppard - Knocknashee
[livejournal.com profile] chopchica
[livejournal.com profile] control_freak80
[livejournal.com profile] forcryinoutloud
[livejournal.com profile] forlornhope42
[livejournal.com profile] jo_zed_pee_em
[livejournal.com profile] ladyflowdi
[livejournal.com profile] ladyjax
[livejournal.com profile] miera_c
[livejournal.com profile] phiremangston
[livejournal.com profile] rosewildeirish
[livejournal.com profile] terrie01
[livejournal.com profile] vickysg1
[livejournal.com profile] wabbitseason
[livejournal.com profile] witchofthedogs
[livejournal.com profile] yin_again

OPT ME OUT

Date: 2006-08-21 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meret.livejournal.com
I couldn't tell if you meant just stories posted on this comm or all SGA stories, so I'm commenting here just in case. I DO NOT want my stories included in this.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-21 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shusu.livejournal.com
I am opting out.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-21 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spubba.livejournal.com
opting out

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-21 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] world-of-blade.livejournal.com
Opt me out please.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-21 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auralan.livejournal.com
I'd like to opt out, please.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-21 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glaelia.livejournal.com
Opting out both as [livejournal.com profile] glaelia and [livejournal.com profile] vanwaelda :)

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-21 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lalejandra.livejournal.com
I'm opting out please.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-21 07:41 pm (UTC)
veracity: (SGA - Teyla)
From: [personal profile] veracity
Changed my mind and opting out please. Not that it was really a concern with all five stories, but still.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-21 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alfirin-kirinki.livejournal.com
Having thought about it, I'm opting out on principle. The only people who may use my fics are people I know personally in fandom, and even then only with express permission.

On reflection, I'm pretty appalled by all of this.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-22 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolkendunst.livejournal.com
I am a mere reader, so I am probably not qualified to judge this properly. But still, I am curious: How is it possible to be appalled if one writes fan fiction? The creators of the original sources don't get asked for their permission, either.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-22 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alfirin-kirinki.livejournal.com
But they haven't expressly said 'no' the way Anne Rice did, for example. If they said that, I would stop. I'd be disappointed, but I would respect their wishes - because they put the effort into creating it in the first place. However, we are looking at a fandom where fanfic is all but encouraged by the writers and even the cast (Chris and Michael?) and they appreciate that the fandom created through fanfiction does help to boost and maintain the popularity of the original tv show/book/film/what have you. Particularly in this genre.

I made an analogy in my own journal about it being like someone bakes a cake for a party, and someone else takes that cake (if not in whole, then in part) to make a trifle for the same party. Sainsbury's may have sold the flour and eggs and belgian cooking chocolate (and got handsomely paid for it), but they knew people were going to make it into something else. When the person baked their cake, they did not expect someone to take it apart and use it for their own creation (and subsequently receive praise for something they created the basis for).

I was ripped off in precisely this way in the HP fandom and the readers practically lynched the person who 'stole' the fic (he gleefully announced on the Y!Group for WtDBI what he was doing). I was deeply, deeply hurt because the person in question actually did it to re-write it so Harry and Draco got together (which at the time was the main tension point in the goddamn story!) suggesting it was my plot which was at fault. And a plot, in some circumstances, it pretty much the only part of the fic we do genuinely create as a writer.

With Stackham, it's different for me, because I've really had to build up an entire background and characterisation to be able to write Pieces or any of the others - I have even more possessive pride in my work. That isn't to say I should have more rights to my fic than a McShepper or a Sparky, but that I am more emotionally invested in it than people might necessarily imagine and it would be a really, really big deal for me if someone fucked with it.

The specific point that I am appalled by, is that it was ever stated that writers could take others' stories without permission, as if the issue was in some way the mods' to decide. Common courtesy and consideration for the feelings of others - especially when you live in the same fandom neigbourhood - should not be optional. They should be something we all treat as essential. Whether someone thinks a person has a 'right' to be upset by someone taking their work, the simple fact is, they might be - and it is that which should motivate people.

But this isn't really the thread for this discussion. (Sorry, mods)

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-21 08:57 pm (UTC)
tielan: (SGA - john1)
From: [personal profile] tielan
Opting out. None of my stories are to be used. Thank you.
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Re: From the other post--

Date: 2006-08-21 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cesperanza.livejournal.com
OK, weird; I posted to say that [livejournal.com profile] nytel wants to opt out--but it didn't show! Let's see!

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-21 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyndasty.livejournal.com
Sorry but I'm opting out of this one. I'm very protective of my stories and would rather not have them picked over in another story by anyone.

Not that it's that big a deal with only a handful of stories but still.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-22 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astrum-presul.livejournal.com
I'm not a comm member, but I'd like to opt out. I'm not comfortable with someone changing up the things I've written.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-22 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
Opting out. Thanks.

interesting

Date: 2006-08-22 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oyadances.livejournal.com
I am very new to this sort of thing, so if this isn't the correct place for this--my bad. I not opting out of the challenge because I haven't posted anything (though now that I've joined I shall have to start complimenting those who do post on a lovely body of work!). But I felt moved to join Livejournal for the first time to say I find it ironic that there are those who don't wish others to create artistic endeavors about the artistic endeavors they have created about the artistic endeavors of others. (and no, I can't say that 3 times real fast). I am looking very much forward to the challenge myself.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-22 06:32 am (UTC)
cedara: (*dork* (SGA-Sheppard))
From: [personal profile] cedara
Since I still have no idea if you only mean the authors of the community or anyone's stories out there, as an SGA fanfic writer who is not a member of this community I am opting out.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-22 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stellahobbit.livejournal.com
Opting out thank you.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-22 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jalabert.livejournal.com
Opting out.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-24 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] december21st.livejournal.com
Opting out.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-08-24 04:21 pm (UTC)
anr: (Default)
From: [personal profile] anr
Opting out.

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